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John Cantin's avatar

Thank you.

On the difference and what we should expect.

The FTE numbers game is a carry over from the corporate world. It is a blunt tool and doesn't always achieve the refocus that should be done.

The prior question, especially if you are facing structural questions, are what should government be doing and, the follow up, how best and what is required to do that.

These would be the better questions to answer in support of any policy to reduce FTE.

We don't have these questions being asked because there is no agreement on what the government should be doing. In fact, a good chunk of the current administration thinks government should be doing less.

Will see how your thinking develops as I have a collectivist bias (co-operation is often the first best) but see that centralising that isn't the most effective way of implementing that.

The constraint I see is that central government is very good at raising revenue. Accountability and responsibility mean central government controls that spend. It also means that Ministers (invariably) want to take credit for the spend. That tends to centralisation.

Squaring that circle, funding, control, taking credit and local delivery and policy design, is the tough call.

(A similar question arises for the charitable/not-for-profit sector - they have a significant reliance on central government to fund them.)

Trust this makes sense.

Peter Tutehanga Carr's avatar

Wow. This one covers a lot of ground!

Re the Thucydides Trap, much like contemporary China, Athens' star had already risen by the start of the story. Marathon, Salamis, the abandonment of the city - all acts of greatness. They were cashing in. Take that as the context, and the theme might be read instead as 'allies to enemies': i.e. the US and the EU. There's a trap to avoid.

Some thoughts on the substantive components, possibly in the manner of pushback:

1. I now work for a listed company. I'd say the transparency demanded of us is as high if not higher than for any public agency I worked for (TPK, MSD, MYD and MOT). Higher because we are externally accountable to a higher power for the spirit with which we meet our disclosure obligations. If you read government annual reports, annual review questions and responses - and if you've ever seen how *those* sausages are made - you know the same is not often true. I am very experienced with working with such documents and they are opaque, and not by accident.

2. I think we all know that not Parliament, nor Executive Council, nor Ministers know enough about everything to be able to write Acts, Regulations and Rules that anticipate and provide for every eventuality. One answer is to leave unregulated spaces, but sometimes that's not in anyone's interests, either. So the other answer is delegated discretion. E.g. outcomes-based legislation and contracts, enabling scopes for appropriations, natural persons powers for state institutions.

The Platonic Guardian is an inevitable risk associated with the degree of risk of a delegatee exceeding the spirit of their delegated authority. That risk is not constrained to the public side of the ledger; devolution beyond the state apparatus merely changes who carries the risk of morphing into the Platonic Guardian.

I don't have a problem with the 'public value' lens. I have a problem with the fact that, even while ANZSOG taught it, agency cultures were palpably hostile towards it. The scaffolding to constrain it to guiding the thoughtful application of discretion had not, in my time at least, been recognised as necessary or built for. Largely, I expect, for what you indicate in this article: the Westminster DNA was rejecting it.

Finally: great to see you diving into the AI space. Looks like you inspired the Pope to join in, too!

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