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Peter Tutehanga Carr's avatar

I can see (imagine?) the threads of national governmental character in each. The UK seems riven in most matters and is in a phase of being brutal to its -admittedly, mediocre these last few decades - leaders. Australia is unwilling to eyeball its past in any domain. And good old New Zealand will favour a focus on doing over thinking - be it reflective or prospective - every time.

However, that aside, my first reaction to this was to consider how I'd frame any such review. Where would my bias direct my attention?

Given the lockdown mandates were some of the baldest uses of the state's monopoly on force in a generation, for many of us, I tend to start with that. And I am reminded of military ethics and the four tests:

* jus ad bellum - is it morally just to enter into war/apply force at all

* jus in bello - is the way you intend to use force morally just

* jus ex bello - is the way you intend to end the use of force morally just, and

* jus post bellum - is the way you intend to organise the post intervention order morally just.

It seems the Johnson administration is condemned for inadequacy at the first hurdle or two. The Ardern administration receives its criticism largely in respect of perceived failures in the latter two especially.

I am also reminded of the notion of ethical triangulation: first applying a deontological assessment to discern the principled approach; then testing that against its consequences; and finally assessing whether the apparent course of action is really what a virtuous person would do or is more the consequence of some other distortionary factor.

I rather expect that New Zealand's choices were driven from a purely consequentialist view, albeit marketed under the brands of the virtuous characters of the PM and the DG of Health. Still, even that narrow a base seems to have proven better than the apparent absence of even a consequentialist lens to guide Australia and the UK in their opening gambits.

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🤷 But surely in some wise each got the one they needed/deserved ⁉️ The UK response WAS a failure in terms of lives lost, systems overwhelmed, etc etc so there IS someone to "hold accountable" for politically bad decision making 🤔 Australia did better than the UK but worse than Aotearoa (by international standards) & they DO have this federal v state tension that makes things more challenging in something like a global pandemic. Aotearoa was world-leading in terms of outcomes - leadership made generally positive decisions in terms of avoiding loss of life & health system overwhelm, & even economically, so "accountable" &/or lack of co-ordination between legislative entities not relevant (leaving aside non-govt agencies like Maori/Pacifica which absolutely needed improvement)

The UK neither had an indigenous operative Treaty partner & statistically more vulnerable Maori/Pacifica population on top of the elderly/immune compromised, nor practical tensions of state v federal. Australia also didn't have the indigenous Treaty partner complexities.

Interesting comparisons that go deeper than just the "Westminster system" commonality because everything else IMHO is apples, oranges, & bananas 🤗

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